MBP8298

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And now the article I intended to post.  Also on Paul Jones site – www.mult-sclerosis.org ======================================= Medical Update Memo December 21, 2004 Summary BioMS Medical Corp. has announced that the first participants are being enrolled in a large, multi-centre, placebo controlled international clinical trial to test the potential benefit of a synthetic peptide called MBP8298 as a treatment for secondary-progressive MS. The first centre to enrol participants is the MS Clinic at St. Michael

Lowcarbing with Breastfeeding?

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says… Hey everyone! I was a lowcarber for quite awhile and successfully.  Down below is my signature at my weight loss while lowcarbing.  I became pregnant in May of ‘04, so I decided just to eat a normal diet.  Of course, I went out of control like most of us do and I have gained quite a bit of weight, (not talking about regular pregnancy weight, I mean fat).  So, now I am ready to get back on the bandwagon as I had my baby last week.

CONGRATULATIONS, Kerri! — Saffire 205/144/125  -  5′1.5" Atkins since 6/14/03 Progress photo:  http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey everyone! I was a lowcarber for quite awhile and successfully.  Down below is my signature at my weight loss while lowcarbing.  I became pregnant in May of ‘04, so I decided just to eat a normal diet.  Of course, I went out of control like most of us do and I have gained quite a bit of weight, (not talking about regular pregnancy weight, I mean fat).  So, now I am ready to get back on the bandwagon as I had my baby last week. Have any of you all breastfed while lowcarbing?  Also, I have just begun looking up information on the web about it, and if you all know of any good links that I could read about how to do it properly, I’d really love to read them. I am quite concerned about my body having ketones in it as I would rather my baby not get that from my milk. Thank you! Kerri

I waited until my baby was 10 months old and only breastfeeding twice a day (June 04), then started phase one of South Beach.  I purposely kept my carb count a bit higher and did not let myself go into ketosis until after weening, which happened several months later.  I also had concerns about ketones in my milk, and couldn’t find enough reliable info to convince me it would be safe for my little guy.  I lost an average of 5 pounds a month, eating higher fiber carbs like beans and peas, and avoiding bread, rice, sweets, etc.  I also joined Curves, which was a BIG help! Listen to your instincts!  Maybe you could do a reduced carb plan like South Beach.  It definitely is better to lose slowly *and* keep baby safe and healthy. Congratulations! Christy

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Hey everyone! I was a lowcarber for quite awhile and successfully.  Down below is my signature at my weight loss while lowcarbing.  I became pregnant in May of ‘04, so I decided just to eat a normal diet.  Of course, I went out of control like most of us do and I have gained quite a bit of weight, (not talking about regular pregnancy weight, I mean fat).  So, now I am ready to get back on the bandwagon as I had my baby last week.

Congratulations!  Got jpegs?  It’s been too long since I’ve seen a new baby. Have any of you all breastfed while lowcarbing?  Also, I have just begun looking up information on the web about it, and if you all know of any good links that I could read about how to do it properly, I’d really love to read them.

Yes, I breastfed while lowcarbing.  No problem whatsoever. I am quite concerned about my body having ketones in it as I would rather my baby not get that from my milk.

It honestly wasn’t a problem in our case. My daughter has just turned two and is superhealthy, tall and slender. She self-weaned at nineteen months. — Mogget, the Churl in the Puce Greatcoat

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I was told to stick with the Atkins Maintenance, no Ketosis while breastfeeding…. glitter Girl

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey everyone! I was a lowcarber for quite awhile and successfully.  Down below is my signature at my weight loss while lowcarbing.  I became pregnant in May of ‘04, so I decided just to eat a normal diet.  Of course, I went out of control like most of us do and I have gained quite a bit of weight, (not talking about regular pregnancy weight, I mean fat).  So, now I am ready to get back on the bandwagon as I had my baby last week. Have any of you all breastfed while lowcarbing?  Also, I have just begun looking up information on the web about it, and if you all know of any good links that I could read about how to do it properly, I’d really love to read them. I am quite concerned about my body having ketones in it as I would rather my baby not get that from my milk. Thank you! Kerri — *6/10/03* 158/113/had baby/???

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Should not be a problem. My wife and daughter have ketone in genetic way. I and my son have not. The kids swim couple hundred yards to a thousand yard every couple days as an exercise without any problem.(They are extremely healthy, even though she has ketone). They eat carb and produce ketone. As matter of fact, my girl prefers carb food than meat. =Hey everyone! =I was a lowcarber for quite awhile and successfully.  Down below is my =signature at my weight loss while lowcarbing.  I became pregnant in May of =’04, so I decided just to eat a normal diet.  Of course, I went out of =control like most of us do and I have gained quite a bit of weight, (not =talking about regular pregnancy weight, I mean fat).  So, now I am ready to =get back on the bandwagon as I had my baby last week. = =Have any of you all breastfed while lowcarbing?  Also, I have just begun =looking up information on the web about it, and if you all know of any good =links that I could read about how to do it properly, I’d really love to read =them. You can always supplement your baby food with formula. = =I am quite concerned about my body having ketones in it as I would rather my =baby not get that from my milk. Why? My daughter is born with it. = =Thank you! = =Kerri

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My daughter Eve was born 7/14/03.  She is still nursing, and I am doing Atkins, have for a month now.  She’s doing fine, and I started on induction, and I am in full blown ketosis.  I did some research, and found that there is no evidence that ketones expressed in breast milk will harm a child.  I found my information from Dr.Hales, he is a foremost expert on breastfeeding, and is well know for his books on medication and breast milk.  He points out that runners will excrete ketones in their breast milk, and their children are fine.  The problem that arises, is no one has tested a woman and her nursing child while in ketosis.  For us, it isn’t a problem.  Eve still nurses 6-8 times a day, and she is doing great. www.breastfeeding.com ’s message boards has a lot of us on a LC diet, who are breast feeding.  You can go there for support too.  Look in the Weight Loss While Breastfeeding forum. -Michelle re-started Atkins 1/4/05 (quit due to pregnancy 3/01) 292/280/175

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  What I find odd, is that Human milk has one of the highest carb counts and the lowest protein content as well. I tried to find some info on nutritional values in aboriginal woman that have a low carb diet, but couldn’t find any info. The only thing I could find about native women’s breast milk was higher levels of PCB’s.    Because the numbers seem to be so different from other animals, I wonder if it is mainly due to the average woman’s diet of 50% or so of carbs, rather than naturally being that high. Since women are advised to do such things as; not eating peanuts because it would show up in their milk, would the amounts of carbs, fat, and protein be proportional to what they eat? Does anyone know if any studies have been done on this?    Inuit babies seem to do ok(I’m guessing) when their mothers are eating only meat. I wonder if their carb contents in breast milk would reflect the low amount of carbs, or if their breasts would make carbs from protein to end up being the same as the average values that are found? If that is what happens, than why would it matter if someone ate lo-carb or not? If it doesn’t happen this way, than why would Inuit babies survive the possibly low carb content?   Of course I’m not saying that anyone should try this and risk Baby’s health. It is probably best not to try and lose weight while pregnant or nursing if there is even the slightest risk of harm.    http://biology.clc.uc.edu/fankhauser/Cheese/milk_content.htm

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey everyone! I was a lowcarber for quite awhile and successfully.  Down below is my signature at my weight loss while lowcarbing.  I became pregnant in May of ‘04, so I decided just to eat a normal diet.  Of course, I went out of control like most of us do and I have gained quite a bit of weight, (not talking about regular pregnancy weight, I mean fat).  So, now I am ready to get back on the bandwagon as I had my baby last week. Have any of you all breastfed while lowcarbing?  Also, I have just begun looking up information on the web about it, and if you all know of any good links that I could read about how to do it properly, I’d really love to read them. I am quite concerned about my body having ketones in it as I would rather my baby not get that from my milk. Thank you! Kerri — *6/10/03*  158/113/had baby/???

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How is asking the experience of others dangerous? Tara

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Shouldn’t you be asking your doctor this question, instead of seeking out anonymous (and potentially dangerous) advice on Usenet? GG

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey everyone! I was a lowcarber for quite awhile and successfully.  Down below is my signature at my weight loss while lowcarbing.  I became pregnant in May of ‘04, so I decided just to eat a normal diet.  Of course, I went out of control like most of us do and I have gained quite a bit of weight, (not talking about regular pregnancy weight, I mean fat).  So, now I am ready to get back on the bandwagon as I had my baby last week. Have any of you all breastfed while lowcarbing?  Also, I have just begun looking up information on the web about it, and if you all know of any good links that I could read about how to do it properly, I’d really love to read them. I am quite concerned about my body having ketones in it as I would rather my baby not get that from my milk. Thank you! Kerri — *6/10/03* 158/113/had baby/???

I started doing South Beach Phase 2 while breast feeding. I lost 15 lbs but had a hard time on the diet because I was eating many things that trigger cravings for me (like bread and oatmeal and raisins) I quit after a while and started Atkins induction after my baby self-weaned at 11 months. I lost 37 lbs since then (July 2004)

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How much fat weight did you gain? How is your baby?  Got jpegs?

:: Hey everyone! :: I was a lowcarber for quite awhile and successfully.  Down below is :: my signature at my weight loss while lowcarbing.  I became pregnant :: in May of ‘04, so I decided just to eat a normal diet.  Of course, I :: went out of control like most of us do and I have gained quite a bit :: of weight, (not talking about regular pregnancy weight, I mean fat). :: So, now I am ready to get back on the bandwagon as I had my baby :: last week. :: :: Have any of you all breastfed while lowcarbing?  Also, I have just :: begun looking up information on the web about it, and if you all :: know of any good links that I could read about how to do it :: properly, I’d really love to read them. :: :: I am quite concerned about my body having ketones in it as I would :: rather my baby not get that from my milk. :: :: Thank you! :: :: Kerri :: :: — :: *6/10/03* ::  158/113/had baby/???

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Hey everyone! I was a lowcarber for quite awhile and successfully.  Down below is my signature at my weight loss while lowcarbing.  I became pregnant in May of ‘04, so I decided just to eat a normal diet.  Of course, I went out of control like most of us do and I have gained quite a bit of weight, (not talking about regular pregnancy weight, I mean fat).  So, now I am ready to get back on the bandwagon as I had my baby last week. Have any of you all breastfed while lowcarbing?  Also, I have just begun looking up information on the web about it, and if you all know of any good links that I could read about how to do it properly, I’d really love to read them. I am quite concerned about my body having ketones in it as I would rather my baby not get that from my milk. Thank you! Kerri — *6/10/03*  158/113/had baby/???

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey everyone! I was a lowcarber for quite awhile and successfully.  Down below is my signature at my weight loss while lowcarbing.  I became pregnant in May of ‘04, so I decided just to eat a normal diet.  Of course, I went out of control like most of us do and I have gained quite a bit of weight, (not talking about regular pregnancy weight, I mean fat).  So, now I am ready to get back on the bandwagon as I had my baby last week. Have any of you all breastfed while lowcarbing?  Also, I have just begun looking up information on the web about it, and if you all know of any good links that I could read about how to do it properly, I’d really love to read them. I am quite concerned about my body having ketones in it as I would rather my baby not get that from my milk. Thank you! Kerri

ahhhhhh… I haven’t done any of the things you’ve mentioned above but I’ve seen this newsgroup recommended here a few times: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PregnantAtkids/

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey everyone! I was a lowcarber for quite awhile and successfully.  Down below is my signature at my weight loss while lowcarbing.  I became pregnant in May of ‘04, so I decided just to eat a normal diet.  Of course, I went out of control like most of us do and I have gained quite a bit of weight, (not talking about regular pregnancy weight, I mean fat).  So, now I am ready to get back on the bandwagon as I had my baby last week. Have any of you all breastfed while lowcarbing?  Also, I have just begun looking up information on the web about it, and if you all know of any good links that I could read about how to do it properly, I’d really love to read them. I am quite concerned about my body having ketones in it as I would rather my baby not get that from my milk. Thank you! Kerri — *6/10/03*  158/113/had baby/???

Shouldn’t you be asking your doctor this question, instead of seeking out anonymous (and potentially dangerous) advice on Usenet? GG

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Thanks, I am going to join the group and hope to learn some helpful information. Kerri

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Gained around 30lbs I believe… I weigh about 150 6 days after baby’s birth,..and I am assuming I will level out at 140 after pregnancy fluids decrease in a week or so.  I was 111 when I becme conceived. Kerri

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BREASTFEEDING AND AIDS IN AFRICA

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BREASTFEEDING AND AIDS IN AFRICA By Roberto Giraldo June 2000 For more than a decade publications have been addressing the possibility that AIDS can be transmitted through breastfeeding. The United Nations’ agencies UNAIDS, UNICEF, and WHO have suggested HIV-positive mother stop breastfeeding to avoid the transmission of HIV/AIDS from mother to child.

Any way they can get third world mothers to stop breastfeeding–they are going to try—that ploy kills 1.5 million from dirty water already

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So true.

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BREASTFEEDING AND AIDS IN AFRICA By Roberto Giraldo June 2000 For more than a decade publications have been addressing the possibility that AIDS can be transmitted through breastfeeding. The United Nations

Advice and support

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I have been lurking for several weeks and finally decided to post. I am looking at starting a diet to lose weight postpartum very soon. I am still nursing (baby is 8 weeks old) and I find it very difficult to diet while doing so. I was not overweight before having kids (I have two, 16 months apart) but pregnancy and becoming a SAHM has NOT helped my weight at all. I am looking for weight loss advice and a circle of support. My DH is not very supportive (well, he tries to be) because he has never had a problem with weight and doesn’t understand it at all. My goal is to be back to my pre-pregnancy weight by baby’s first birthday which would be mid-Nov. 2005. This allows for a very gradual, reasonable weight loss, probably with time to spare. I am wondering how many calories should I have a day and what kind of indoor exercise would you recommend? It’s cold here so something like a workout video would be best. Thanks for any suggestions. Wendy

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have been lurking for several weeks and finally decided to post. I am looking at starting a diet to lose weight postpartum very soon. I am still nursing (baby is 8 weeks old) and I find it very difficult to diet while doing so. I was not overweight before having kids (I have two, 16 months apart) but pregnancy and becoming a SAHM has NOT helped my weight at all. I am looking for weight loss advice and a circle of support. My DH is not very supportive (well, he tries to be) because he has never had a problem with weight and doesn’t understand it at all. My goal is to be back to my pre-pregnancy weight by baby’s first birthday which would be mid-Nov. 2005. This allows for a very gradual, reasonable weight loss, probably with time to spare. I am wondering how many calories should I have a day and what kind of indoor exercise would you recommend? It’s cold here so something like a workout video would be best. Thanks for any suggestions. Wendy

Congratulations on being a new mom! Please don’t forget that while nursing you will need to take in a reasonable amount of calories to support both of your nutritional needs. A balanced diet with plenty of protein and vegies is good for you and the baby (you probably didn’t need me to tell you that…). As far as calories go, a lot of people shoot for 10x body weight for loss, and 12x to 15x their body weight for maintenance. I’m not sure, in your particular situation, how much you should be eating. Back when I nursed my children, the doc said an extra 1000 calories a day was nothing–and was needed to produce milk and to support yourself. Is that still "true"? I’ll have to go look… Perhaps a newer mom could chime in here. Try indoor exercises like aerobics, pilates, and free weights or resistance bands. I’m sure you’ll find something that appeals to you. Personally, when I can’t make it out, pilates is my exercise of choice. Anyway, welcome to the group, Wendy. Amy 168/115/110

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have been lurking for several weeks and finally decided to post. I am looking at starting a diet to lose weight postpartum very soon. I am still nursing (baby is 8 weeks old) and I find it very difficult to diet while doing so. I was not overweight before having kids (I have two, 16 months apart) but pregnancy and becoming a SAHM has NOT helped my weight at all. I am looking for weight loss advice and a circle of support. My DH is not very supportive (well, he tries to be) because he has never had a problem with weight and doesn’t understand it at all. My goal is to be back to my pre-pregnancy weight by baby’s first birthday which would be mid-Nov. 2005. This allows for a very gradual, reasonable weight loss, probably with time to spare. I am wondering how many calories should I have a day and what kind of indoor exercise would you recommend? It’s cold here so something like a workout video would be best. Thanks for any suggestions. Wendy Congratulations on being a new mom! Please don’t forget that while nursing you will need to take in a reasonable amount of calories to support both of your nutritional needs. A balanced diet with plenty of protein and vegies is good for you and the baby (you probably didn’t need me to tell you that…). As far as calories go, a lot of people shoot for 10x body weight for loss, and 12x to 15x their body weight for maintenance. I’m not sure, in your particular situation, how much you should be eating. Back when I nursed my children, the doc said an extra 1000 calories a day was nothing–and was needed to produce milk and to support yourself. Is that still "true"? I’ll have to go look… Perhaps a newer mom could chime in here. Try indoor exercises like aerobics, pilates, and free weights or resistance bands. I’m sure you’ll find something that appeals to you. Personally, when I can’t make it out, pilates is my exercise of choice. Anyway, welcome to the group, Wendy. Amy 168/115/110

I like doing workout videos when I’m stuck inside and don’t feel like doing my elliptical.  Collage video has an excellent variety for all kinds of workouts at all levels (www.collagevideo.com).  I also have a swiss ball, resistance bands, a medicine ball, and some dumbbells in addition to all of my yoga stuff so boredom isn’t really an issue!  A great exercise resource is Mistress Krista’s site www.stumptuous.com/weights.html  As far as the eating stuff goes – ITA with Amy and have nothing to add.  Welcome aboard! Jenn

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thank you Jenn, Amy, and Beverly for the warm welcome! I am looking forward to being part of the group. I plan to stop nursing soon so I don’t think needing the extra calories will be an issue. I have also heard that restricting calories too much while nursing is a bad thing. Thanks for the suggestions about exercise, I think I’ll try the resistance bands. Where can you buy them at? What about Denise Austin’s videos? Has anyone tried them? Wendy I have a few of her videos (yoga, pilates, weights, kickboxing). She’s a bit perky for my taste at times, but I just tune out her silliness and do the exercises which are generally challenging without being very difficult.  Resistance bands like therabands can be purchased at most sports stores. Jenn

Don’t you just wonder how many Red Bulls she has during the day? I know, probably none, but do you think she has hissy fits during filming?…heh heh I follow a video for Tai Chi and the instructor is so calm …always..I often wonder how many takes it took to complete the entire video. OK, I’m sick…. Martha

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Thank you Jenn, Amy, and Beverly for the warm welcome! I am looking forward to being part of the group. I plan to stop nursing soon so I don’t think needing the extra calories will be an issue. I have also heard that restricting calories too much while nursing is a bad thing. Thanks for the suggestions about exercise, I think I’ll try the resistance bands. Where can you buy them at? What about Denise Austin’s videos? Has anyone tried them? Wendy

I have a few of her videos (yoga, pilates, weights, kickboxing).  She’s a bit perky for my taste at times, but I just tune out her silliness and do the exercises which are generally challenging without being very difficult.  Resistance bands like therabands can be purchased at most sports stores. Jenn

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Thank you Jenn, Amy, and Beverly for the warm welcome! I am looking forward to being part of the group. I plan to stop nursing soon so I don’t think needing the extra calories will be an issue. I have also heard that restricting calories too much while nursing is a bad thing. Thanks for the suggestions about exercise, I think I’ll try the resistance bands. Where can you buy them at? What about Denise Austin’s videos? Has anyone tried them? Wendy

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have been lurking for several weeks and finally decided to post. I am looking at starting a diet to lose weight postpartum very soon. I am still nursing (baby is 8 weeks old) and I find it very difficult to diet while doing so. I was not overweight before having kids (I have two, 16 months apart) but pregnancy and becoming a SAHM has NOT helped my weight at all. I am looking for weight loss advice and a circle of support. My DH is not very supportive (well, he tries to be) because he has never had a problem with weight and doesn’t understand it at all. My goal is to be back to my pre-pregnancy weight by baby’s first birthday which would be mid-Nov. 2005. This allows for a very gradual, reasonable weight loss, probably with time to spare. I am wondering how many calories should I have a day and what kind of indoor exercise would you recommend? It’s cold here so something like a workout video would be best. Thanks for any suggestions. Wendy

Congratulations on the new baby and welcome to the group.  It’s a great place for information and support.  Hope to see you posting often. Beverly 177/142/~140

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have been lurking for several weeks and finally decided to post. I am looking at starting a diet to lose weight postpartum very soon. I am still nursing (baby is 8 weeks old) and I find it very difficult to diet while doing so. I was not overweight before having kids (I have two, 16 months apart) but pregnancy and becoming a SAHM has NOT helped my weight at all. I am looking for weight loss advice and a circle of support. My DH is not very supportive (well, he tries to be) because he has never had a problem with weight and doesn’t understand it at all. My goal is to be back to my pre-pregnancy weight by baby’s first birthday which would be mid-Nov. 2005. This allows for a very gradual, reasonable weight loss, probably with time to spare. I am wondering how many calories should I have a day and what kind of indoor exercise would you recommend? It’s cold here so something like a workout video would be best. Thanks for any suggestions.

Perhaps you should start by asking your doctor or midwife for a diet guideline that you can follow while you are breast feeding? I find it easier to count portions than strictly following calories, and it helps me understand where my way of eating becomes unbalanced.  The amount in brackets is what I aim at per day.  You may want to add some extra proteins and dairy and a few extra complex carbohydrates. Proteins (5) Carbohydrates (3) Fats (3) Dairy (2) Fruit (3) Vegetables (3) Moira, the Faerie Godmother

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I am still nursing (baby is 8 weeks old) and I find it very difficult to diet while doing so. Two thoughts strike immediately. First is that I am not qualified to advise somebody in your situation, and second is that maybe you should finish nursing and then worry about losing weight.

It makes me gag when people say they want to stop nursing the baby so they can lose weight. I went through hell and high water to keep each of my kids breastfed for the full six months the doctor said was important to them. Weaning a baby for vanity… well… sorry, I’m a bit judgmental. Delenn

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I have been lurking for several weeks and finally decided to post. I am looking at starting a diet to lose weight postpartum very soon.

Congratulations. I am also losing weight "post partum". I started putting it on when my wife was pregnant with my son who is now 16. (And I don’t mean 16 months.) I am still nursing (baby is 8 weeks old) and I find it very difficult to diet while doing so.

Two thoughts strike immediately. First is that I am not qualified to advise somebody in your situation, and second is that maybe you should finish nursing and then worry about losing weight. Mike

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You seldom see baby carriages today like the ones when we were growing up.  The old ones really shielded the infant from wind and cold.  The closest thing we have today are the bike trailer/joggers that have plastic covers to protect the kids.  My Burley trailer has this setup and I don’t hesitate to put the grandkids in it on colder days.  Don’t think I’d take them out in a regular stroller – their little noses might freeze off<g

Exactly, it was one of those big, blue prams with real wheels, a foldup hood/shade and coordinating puffy, quilted accessories.  It was gorgeous – and a bear to get up and downstairs <g  I was snug as a bug in a rug. — Snowshoeing!! Laurie in Maine 207/110  60 inches of attitude! Start: 2/02  Maintained since 2/03

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Thank you Jenn, Amy, and Beverly for the warm welcome! I am looking forward to being part of the group. I plan to stop nursing soon so I don’t think needing the extra calories will be an issue. I have also heard that restricting calories too much while nursing is a bad thing. Thanks for the suggestions about exercise, I think I’ll try the resistance bands. Where can you buy them at? What about Denise Austin’s videos? Has anyone tried them? Wendy

I bought some resistance bands at Target–for just a buck, along with a jump rope. The bands are good for all kinds of exercises, and we sometimes use them during pilates class. I think someone mentioned Krista’s site (stumptuous.com)–it’s a great resource for all kinds of nutrition and exercise information. And, if you’re interested in knowing how many cals you’re taking in and how much you’re burning, check out fitday.com. It’s free, and many of us use it to track our progress. Amy 168/115/110 4th snow shoeing class today!

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I have heard that the longer weight stays on the harder it is to get rid of, any opinions?

I’m not sure this is really anything other than folklore.  It’s probably true that it’s harder to change eating and exercise (or lack thereof) habits that you’ve held for a long time than to get back to habits you had only months ago, but I doubt there’s any physiological reason for it. Personally, I didn’t find it hard (whatever that might mean in this context) to lose a whole lot of extra weight that I’d carried for many years.  But I did make a commitment to changing lifelong habits of overeating and underexercising. Chris 262/134/(130-140) started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004

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I have to disagree with you here. Small children can be taken outside in relatively cold weather (say, at above 0F). They need to be appropriately dressed, that’s all. My son loves snow and sometimes wallows in it or rides down various snow piles around our driveway. And my mom put me in my carriage out on the front porch for my nap in NY the winter I was born.

You seldom see baby carriages today like the ones when we were growing up.  The old ones really shielded the infant from wind and cold.  The closest thing we have today are the bike trailer/joggers that have plastic covers to protect the kids.  My Burley trailer has this setup and I don’t hesitate to put the grandkids in it on colder days.  Don’t think I’d take them out in a regular stroller – their little noses might freeze off<g Beverly

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message Nursing is not a hindrance to weight loss, according to http://tinyurl.com/4qy8u In fact it seems to help the body regain all sorts of pre-baby desirables.  And the longer one breast feeds the less the risk of ovarian and breast cancer.

Plus, the baby is less likely to die. Details, details. Delenn

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message Nursing is not a hindrance to weight loss, according to http://tinyurl.com/4qy8u

In fact it seems to help the body regain all sorts of pre-baby desirables.  And the longer one breast feeds the less the risk of ovarian and breast cancer. Moira, the Faerie Godmother

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Thank you again for all the welcomes! About the bfing, sorry if I wasn’t clear but I said I think it’s hard to diet while bfing, I am not stopping because I want to lose weight. That said, I am really hoping that what some of you had mentioned is true……that because I was within a normal weight range pre-pregnancy that maybe this weight won’t be too tough to lose. I have heard that the longer weight stays on the harder it is to get rid of, any opinions? Wendy

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Don’t you just wonder how many Red Bulls she has during the day? I know, probably none, but do you think she has hissy fits during filming?…heh heh I follow a video for Tai Chi and the instructor is so calm …always..I often wonder how many takes it took to complete the entire video. OK, I’m sick…. What does that make me?! I used to make up stories about the women in the class on my walking tape.  Of course, one was a porn star I won’t even tell my speculations about the guys in the Pilates tapes <g

ROFLMAO!!!!!! Martha

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I have to disagree with you here. Small children can be taken outside in relatively cold weather (say, at above 0F). They need to be appropriately dressed, that’s all. My son loves snow and sometimes wallows in it or rides down various snow piles around our driveway.

And my mom put me in my carriage out on the front porch for my nap in NY the winter I was born. I don’t have kids but somehow trying to exercise outdoors in winter with an infant and a toddler would be difficult at best.  Heck – I can’t even get my dog to keep up with me and cold is nothing to her! <g — Snowshoeing!! Laurie in Maine 207/110  60 inches of attitude! Start: 2/02  Maintained since 2/03

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couldn’t get outside to walk. It’s fairly cold here but I love getting outside.  I understand it’s different with very small kids. I have to disagree with you here. Small children can be taken outside in relatively cold weather (say, at above 0F). They need to be appropriately dressed, that’s all. My son loves snow and sometimes wallows in it or rides down various snow piles around our driveway. — 223/173.2/180

I don’t think I would want to take an eight week old baby out in 0F weather for any length of time.  A toddler should be able to tell you they were cold but an infant couldn’t.  It doesn’t take long to get frostbite in such conditions.  Even young children and teens often get so involved in playing outdoors they fail to recognize the dangers.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am still nursing (baby is 8 weeks old) and I find it very difficult to diet while doing so. Two thoughts strike immediately. First is that I am not qualified to advise somebody in your situation, and second is that maybe you should finish nursing and then worry about losing weight. It makes me gag when people say they want to stop nursing the baby so they can lose weight. I went through hell and high water to keep each of my kids breastfed for the full six months the doctor said was important to them. Weaning a baby for vanity… well… sorry, I’m a bit judgmental. Delenn

Maybe I read the OP differently, but I did not see where she said she wanted to stop nursing tne baby. She merely said she found it difficult to lose wait WHILE nursing. Yeah, that was pretty judemental and directed at perhaps teh wrong person. Martha

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Don’t you just wonder how many Red Bulls she has during the day? I know, probably none, but do you think she has hissy fits during filming?…heh heh I follow a video for Tai Chi and the instructor is so calm …always..I often wonder how many takes it took to complete the entire video. OK, I’m sick….

What does that make me?! I used to make up stories about the women in the class on my walking tape.  Of course, one was a porn star I won’t even tell my speculations about the guys in the Pilates tapes <g — Snowshoeing!! Laurie in Maine 207/110  60 inches of attitude! Start: 2/02  Maintained since 2/03

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have been lurking for several weeks and finally decided to post. I am looking at starting a diet to lose weight postpartum very soon. I am still nursing (baby is 8 weeks old) and I find it very difficult to diet while doing so. I was not overweight before having kids (I have two, 16 months apart) but pregnancy and becoming a SAHM has NOT helped my weight at all. I am looking for weight loss advice and a circle of support. My DH is not very supportive (well, he tries to be) because he has never had a problem with weight and doesn’t understand it at all. My goal is to be back to my pre-pregnancy weight by baby’s first birthday which would be mid-Nov. 2005. This allows for a very gradual, reasonable weight loss, probably with time to spare. I am wondering how many calories should I have a day and what kind of indoor exercise would you recommend? It’s cold here so something like a workout video would be best. Thanks for any suggestions. Wendy

Hi Wendy – welcome to ASD.   If you’re interested in reading about how some folks have permanently changed the way they deal with food (and other issues), get *Changing for Good* by James Prochaska. If you weren’t overweight before, it might be fairly painless for you to get back to where you want to be.  I used one of Leslie Sansone’s walking tapes during the year I lost weight.  The tape was great on days when I couldn’t get outside to walk. It’s fairly cold here but I love getting outside.  I understand it’s different with very small kids. Stick around, good luck. — Snowshoeing!! Laurie in Maine 207/110  60 inches of attitude! Start: 2/02  Maintained since 2/03

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 That said, I am really hoping that what some of you had mentioned is true……that because I was within a normal weight range pre-pregnancy that maybe this weight won’t be too tough to lose. I have heard that the longer weight stays on the harder it is to get rid of, any opinions?

I’m not so sure about that, I was fat for years before I decided to change. Making a real commitment to eat right and exercise – and understanding that you will do that *forever*, makes it a part of your daily life.  It’s like brushing your teeth.  It will be good for your children to see you eating properly and exercising.  It will be NORMAL. One thing that’s very much imprinted in me is that I don’t ever want to have to lose that weight *again*. — Snowshoeing!! Laurie in Maine 207/110  60 inches of attitude! Start: 2/02  Maintained since 2/03

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am I menopauseal

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In article <33irhhF4112t…@individual.net>, – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text - "Marilee" <marilee.erick…@gmail.com> wrote: > "Priscilla Ballou" <vze23…@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:vze23t8n-BBF422.11303630122004@news.verizon.net… > > In article <33ii1tF3unvb…@individual.net>, > >  "Marilee" <marilee.erick…@gmail.com> wrote: > > > "Lil Texas Doxies" > > > and OT–5)  Do you raise dachshunds, by any chance? > > > Welcome to a.s.m. > > OK, you had me going with number 5 until I went back and looked at the > > OP’s name.  ;-) > > Priscilla, who had (very) briefly wondered if Marilee had wandered onto > > another plane of reality > Not this time.  :) > I figured she must either own or breed dachshunds because someone who fits > the meaning of "doxy" would likely not use it in her e-mail address or > online identity. > I could be wrong…..

LOL!  I think you’re right.  Unless, of course, she lived in Nevada? Priscilla — "It is very, very dangerous to treat any human, lowest of the low even, with contempt and arrogant whatever.   The Lord takes this kind of treatment very, very personal." – QBaal in newsgroup alt.religion.christian.episcopal

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news:vze23t8n-BBF422.11303630122004@news.verizon.net… > In article <33ii1tF3unvb…@individual.net>, >  "Marilee" <marilee.erick…@gmail.com> wrote: > > "Lil Texas Doxies" > > and OT–5)  Do you raise dachshunds, by any chance? > > Welcome to a.s.m. > OK, you had me going with number 5 until I went back and looked at the > OP’s name.  ;-) > Priscilla, who had (very) briefly wondered if Marilee had wandered onto > another plane of reality

Not this time.  :) I figured she must either own or breed dachshunds because someone who fits the meaning of "doxy" would likely not use it in her e-mail address or online identity. I could be wrong….. Marilee

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news:vze23t8n-BBF422.11303630122004@news.verizon.net… > In article <33ii1tF3unvb…@individual.net>, >  "Marilee" <marilee.erick…@gmail.com> wrote: > > and OT–5)  Do you raise dachshunds, by any chance? > > Welcome to a.s.m. > OK, you had me going with number 5 until I went back and looked at the > OP’s name.  ;-) > Priscilla, who had (very) briefly wondered if Marilee had wandered onto > another plane of reality

Oh!  I was wondering about question #5, too – *now* I see…  ;-) Cathy

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"Lil Texas Doxies" <liltxdox…@spam.com> wrote in news:41d3edd6$1_4@127.0.0.1: > I have had a heavy period every since I had my first child and the > cramps just about killed me the first few days. I have been for the > last 2 years or so been waking up sweating at night even when it is > freezing cold. Well now this month when I started my period I much of > nothing I mean I could use a panty liner compared to me having to wear > a tampon and a pad. I had no cramps really were they use to just > almost knock me out. I am 33 soon to be 34. I am just wondering if > this is what might be going on with me. I have had a few irregular > periods but nothing that isnt due to stress really.

I have nothing to add to what the others have said, except to say, ‘Welcome to asm’.  :-) Chakolate — It is always easier to believe than to deny. Our minds are naturally affirmative.   –John Burroughs

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yes I am a Doxie Breeder LOL!!!! Must be a Stressed one maybe. DoxieMomma "Priscilla Ballou" <vze23…@verizon.net> wrote in message

news:vze23t8n-2E25C8.12204630122004@news.verizon.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> In article <33irhhF4112t…@individual.net>, > "Marilee" <marilee.erick…@gmail.com> wrote: >> "Priscilla Ballou" <vze23…@verizon.net> wrote in message >> news:vze23t8n-BBF422.11303630122004@news.verizon.net… >> > In article <33ii1tF3unvb…@individual.net>, >> >  "Marilee" <marilee.erick…@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > "Lil Texas Doxies" >> > > and OT–5)  Do you raise dachshunds, by any chance? >> > > Welcome to a.s.m. >> > OK, you had me going with number 5 until I went back and looked at the >> > OP’s name.  ;-) >> > Priscilla, who had (very) briefly wondered if Marilee had wandered onto >> > another plane of reality >> Not this time.  :) >> I figured she must either own or breed dachshunds because someone who >> fits >> the meaning of "doxy" would likely not use it in her e-mail address or >> online identity. >> I could be wrong….. > LOL!  I think you’re right.  Unless, of course, she lived in Nevada? > Priscilla > — > "It is very, very dangerous to treat any human, lowest > of the low even, with contempt and arrogant whatever. > The Lord takes this kind of treatment very, very personal." > – QBaal in newsgroup alt.religion.christian.episcopal

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My First Child is 14 yrs old fixing to be 15. I one other child which is fixing to be 12 jan 4 2005 Nope not any more LOL Stress ?? BILLS!!! LOL "Marilee" <marilee.erick…@gmail.com> wrote in message

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Thanks For the warm welcome also. DoxieMomma "Chakolate" <chakolateDeathToSpamm…@allvantage.com> wrote in message

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OK, you had me going with number 5 until I went back and looked at the OP’s name.  ;-) Priscilla, who had (very) briefly wondered if Marilee had wandered onto another plane of reality — "It is very, very dangerous to treat any human, lowest of the low even, with contempt and arrogant whatever.   The Lord takes this kind of treatment very, very personal." – QBaal in newsgroup alt.religion.christian.episcopal

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"Lil Texas Doxies" <liltxdox…@spam.com> wrote in message news:41d3edd6$1_4@127.0.0.1… >I have had a heavy period every since I had my first child and the cramps >just about killed me the first few days. I have been for the last 2 years >or so been waking up sweating at night even when it is freezing cold. Well >now this month when I started my period I much of nothing I mean I could >use a panty liner compared to me having to wear a tampon and a pad. I had >no cramps really were they use to just almost knock me out. I am 33 soon to >be 34. I am just wondering if this is what might be going on with me. I >have had a few irregular periods but nothing that isnt due to stress >really.

Some questions: 1)  How old is your "first child"? 2)  Have you had additional children? 3)  Are you breast feeding? 4)  What unusual stresses/stressors are you dealing with?  (Give only as much information as you’re comfortable with.) and OT–5)  Do you raise dachshunds, by any chance? Welcome to a.s.m. Marilee

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Marilee wrote: > "Lil Texas Doxies" <liltxdox…@spam.com> wrote in message > news:41d3edd6$1_4@127.0.0.1… > >I have had a heavy period every since I had my first child and the cramps > >just about killed me the first few days. I have been for the last 2 years > >or so been waking up sweating at night even when it is freezing cold. Well > >now this month when I started my period I much of nothing I mean I could > >use a panty liner compared to me having to wear a tampon and a pad. I had > >no cramps really were they use to just almost knock me out. I am 33 soon to > >be 34. I am just wondering if this is what might be going on with me. I > >have had a few irregular periods but nothing that isnt due to stress > >really. > Some questions: > 1)  How old is your "first child"? > 2)  Have you had additional children? > 3)  Are you breast feeding? > 4)  What unusual stresses/stressors are you dealing with?  (Give only as > much information as you’re comfortable with.) > and OT–5)  Do you raise dachshunds, by any chance? > Welcome to a.s.m. > Marilee

And another couple of questions. Have you had a tubal ligation, and if so was it performed before you started having night sweats? Have you seen a doctor about hese night sweats? If you haven’t I suggest you do so within the near future since they may be due to something other than perimenopause or thyroid problems.

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Lil Texas Doxies <liltxdox…@spam.com> wrote: > I have had a heavy period every since I had my first child and the cramps > just about killed me the first few days. I have been for the last 2 years or > so been waking up sweating at night even when it is freezing cold. Well now > this month when I started my period I much of nothing I mean I could use a > panty liner compared to me having to wear a tampon and a pad. I had no > cramps really were they use to just almost knock me out. I am 33 soon to be > 34. I am just wondering if this is what might be going on with me. I have > had a few irregular periods but nothing that isnt due to stress really.

Since you are a little young to be experiencing peri-menopause (though it’s not unheard of), you should rule out other possible causes of a change in menstrual flow, like your thyroid. If everything checks out, then consider yourself an early starter. — ****** Keera in Norway ****** * Think big. Shrink to fit. * http://home.online.no/~kafox/

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i second keera’s suggestion of ruling out your thyroid.  if you are hyperthyroid, as i am, one of the symptoms is irregular menstral cycles. make a doctor appointment and specifically mention that you would like blood work to rule out any thyroid problems. hth. mickey "Lil Texas Doxies" <liltxdox…@spam.com> wrote in message news:41d3edd6$1_4@127.0.0.1… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have had a heavy period every since I had my first child and the cramps > just about killed me the first few days. I have been for the last 2 years or > so been waking up sweating at night even when it is freezing cold. Well now > this month when I started my period I much of nothing I mean I could use a > panty liner compared to me having to wear a tampon and a pad. I had no > cramps really were they use to just almost knock me out. I am 33 soon to be > 34. I am just wondering if this is what might be going on with me. I have > had a few irregular periods but nothing that isnt due to stress really. > —-== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com – Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==—- > http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups > —= East/West-Coast Server Farms – Total Privacy via Encryption =—

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Understanding > Grammar

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Here is my sister Angelica’s old address: 1500 North Congress Avenue # A-4 West Palm Beach, FL 33401

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Chesucat, I have killed logic.

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Chesucat, She is now 33 years old.

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Chesucat, Do you like to be touched?

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Chesucat, Incantation. Prayer.

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Chesucat, Talk to the air. Spellcasting can be fun.

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news:33dm0dF3vdvlsU3@individual.net… > Daniel Urtiz wrote: > DU>Chesucat, > DU>Do you like to be touched? > Daniel, > My mother said that when I was a baby I didn’t like to be held and I > would go all stiff-like when picked up.  She said I didn’t cry very > much as a baby too.  I told pine about that and she thought it was > kinda sad for some reason.  Did your mother breast-feed you when you > were a baby? > <chesucat twitched>

I was terrified of my mother when I was a kid, I was afraid to even breathe in front of her.

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Chesucat, My mother didn’t breastfeed me and I am not circumsized. I ran into a snob on a BBS once who was named Matthew, who was somewhat of a snob with regards to commas. He was an ugly, pasty white boy. Why should I feel regrets over such an insult? I attempted civility, but he went off blabbling about some stale food some Mexican wagon or other was selling near his workplace. He was being a snob and I knew it was somewaht aimed at me, but I didn’t push the subject very much, because most white people are hypocrites and cowards. Some crotchety old man also made a big deal about a threat I made, but he might have deserved it.

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Chesucat, Logic isn’t just math. Some people use it as a head trip. Doing that is somewhat ethnocentric, because most Hispanics don’t like logic very much. If taken to a far enough extent, it can become abusive.

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"Chesucat" <chesu…@freeshell.org> wrote in message

news:Pine.NEB.4.61.0412300034480.17891@bgnxh.serrfuryy.bet… > On Thu, 30 Dec 2004, Hood wrote: > > I was terrified of my mother when I was a kid, I was afraid to even > > breathe in front of her. > Michelle is somewhat ‘autistic’, non? > <chesucat twitches>

You could be right – I have never thought of that, surprising none of the psychiatrists have thought of it.

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Chesucat, That’s bull shit, Chesucat. Some Hispanics are passionate, not all of them. They really aren’t as "one-eyed" or clone as you might think they are. I think Hispanics tend to be more emotional than they are passionate. Italians are the passionate ones.

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> Daniel, > You are getting "emotional", ‘ey?;-)  You are opening up to the ‘group’ > more!

oh feel the love.  let’s get some MDMA into Danny boy and have a big love fest.  i just love hot sweaty Hispanics. <m’s penis twitched> m.

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> > He was being a snob and I knew it was somewhat aimed at me, but I didn’t > > push the subject very much, because most white people are hypocrites and > > cowards.

folks, if you don’t know what irony is, this is a great definition. m.

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News of the not-pregnant-anymore woman

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Congratulations on the birth of your daughter. Not sure but I think that is a serious underestimation for breast feeding.Check with your leader as you don’t want to be starving yourself if you need to feed baby Goodluck Hazell

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Hi everyone! First, happy holidays to all. Second, I am happy to announce that baby Catherine was born on Nov. 27. She’s a strong baby (was 10 lbs 7 ounces at birth) and tall baby (now 22.5 inches long) and very healthy.

Yay!  Well done and congrats!  That is one biiig lass!  ;)  I thought James was quite big enough at eight and a half! For my part I have already lost 35 pounds since birth (as of Dec. 14 weigh in at the birth centre).  This means I only have 10 "pregnancy" pounds to lose, and I’ll be ready to lost the last 20 pounds to get to my healthy weight.

Well done!  It’s taken me 10 years!  ;D I intend to start meetings again in January, however I will be starting the program again on my own (and with you guys) on Monday. I was wondering if any of you know how many points I must add for breastfeeding?  I figure 2 or 3 top, but I could be wrong… Any idea?

Sorry – can’t help with that one, but I have a feeling it’s more than that. — Kate  XXXXXX Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk Click on Kate’s Pages and explore!

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Congratulations, Isabelle! I was wondering if he baby was already there… I hope little Catherine will bring everyone lots of joy! You did well on the weight side. Great to hear you are back on track. — Nathalie from Belgium 134.1/88.9/minigoal 88.7/ Goal 68 Kg 295.6/196/minigoal 195.6/Goal 150 pounds INTL  challenge 200.9/196/189.6 pounds                            91.1/ 88.9/86 Kg

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so glad the baby is fine, I think my book said ten for bf, Lee

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi everyone! First, happy holidays to all. Second, I am happy to announce that baby Catherine was born on Nov. 27. She’s a strong baby (was 10 lbs 7 ounces at birth) and tall baby (now 22.5 inches long) and very healthy. For my part I have already lost 35 pounds since birth (as of Dec. 14 weigh in at the birth centre).  This means I only have 10 "pregnancy" pounds to lose, and I’ll be ready to lost the last 20 pounds to get to my healthy weight. I intend to start meetings again in January, however I will be starting the program again on my own (and with you guys) on Monday. I was wondering if any of you know how many points I must add for breastfeeding?  I figure 2 or 3 top, but I could be wrong… Any idea? Thanks! Isabelle

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Yay!  Well done and congrats!  That is one biiig lass!  ;)  I thought James was quite big enough at eight and a half!

She is, isn’t she? For my part I have already lost 35 pounds since birth (as of Dec. 14 weigh in at the birth centre).  This means I only have 10 "pregnancy" pounds to lose, and I’ll be ready to lost the last 20 pounds to get to my healthy weight. Well done!  It’s taken me 10 years!  ;D

Well, I suppose having such a big baby helped: the day after the birth I had already lost 17 pounds!  The rest came from sleep deprivation and stress with our new role as parents! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I intend to start meetings again in January, however I will be starting the program again on my own (and with you guys) on Monday. I was wondering if any of you know how many points I must add for breastfeeding?  I figure 2 or 3 top, but I could be wrong… Any idea? Sorry – can’t help with that one, but I have a feeling it’s more than that. — Kate  XXXXXX Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk Click on Kate’s Pages and explore!

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Thank YOU for today’s NSV!!!, Lee

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Too late for that – are NO LONGER FAT, so you cannot stay fat! Happy New Year Sorry I will stay fat before that!!! Lee Hey congrats, Isabelle! That’s wonderful! And wow you’ve already lost 35 pounds in a month??? Wow, I need to get pregnant… LOL. WTG! — ~Kristin 279.8/279.8/177 re-started WW 12/27/04 Hi everyone! First, happy holidays to all. Second, I am happy to announce that baby Catherine was born on Nov. 27. She’s a strong baby (was 10 lbs 7 ounces at birth) and tall baby (now 22.5 inches long) and very healthy. For my part I have already lost 35 pounds since birth (as of Dec. 14 weigh in at the birth centre).  This means I only have 10 "pregnancy" pounds to lose, and I’ll be ready to lost the last 20 pounds to get to my healthy weight. I intend to start meetings again in January, however I will be starting the program again on my own (and with you guys) on Monday. I was wondering if any of you know how many points I must add for breastfeeding?  I figure 2 or 3 top, but I could be wrong… Any idea? Thanks! Isabelle

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Hey congrats, Isabelle! That’s wonderful! And wow you’ve already lost 35 pounds in a month??? Wow, I need to get pregnant… LOL. WTG! — ~Kristin 279.8/279.8/177 re-started WW 12/27/04

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi everyone! First, happy holidays to all. Second, I am happy to announce that baby Catherine was born on Nov. 27. She’s a strong baby (was 10 lbs 7 ounces at birth) and tall baby (now 22.5 inches long) and very healthy. For my part I have already lost 35 pounds since birth (as of Dec. 14 weigh in at the birth centre).  This means I only have 10 "pregnancy" pounds to lose, and I’ll be ready to lost the last 20 pounds to get to my healthy weight. I intend to start meetings again in January, however I will be starting the program again on my own (and with you guys) on Monday. I was wondering if any of you know how many points I must add for breastfeeding?  I figure 2 or 3 top, but I could be wrong… Any idea? Thanks! Isabelle

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Sorry I will stay fat before that!!! Lee

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey congrats, Isabelle! That’s wonderful! And wow you’ve already lost 35 pounds in a month??? Wow, I need to get pregnant… LOL. WTG! — ~Kristin 279.8/279.8/177 re-started WW 12/27/04 Hi everyone! First, happy holidays to all. Second, I am happy to announce that baby Catherine was born on Nov. 27. She’s a strong baby (was 10 lbs 7 ounces at birth) and tall baby (now 22.5 inches long) and very healthy. For my part I have already lost 35 pounds since birth (as of Dec. 14 weigh in at the birth centre).  This means I only have 10 "pregnancy" pounds to lose, and I’ll be ready to lost the last 20 pounds to get to my healthy weight. I intend to start meetings again in January, however I will be starting the program again on my own (and with you guys) on Monday. I was wondering if any of you know how many points I must add for breastfeeding?  I figure 2 or 3 top, but I could be wrong… Any idea? Thanks! Isabelle

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congrats on Catherine, you have done really well with only 10lbs preggie weight, well done!!! merry Christmas to you and your FAMILY!!!! Michelle Ozzie in  Switzerland 70.4/70.2/60 Starting again 24.11.04 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi everyone! First, happy holidays to all. Second, I am happy to announce that baby Catherine was born on Nov. 27. She’s a strong baby (was 10 lbs 7 ounces at birth) and tall baby (now 22.5 inches long) and very healthy. For my part I have already lost 35 pounds since birth (as of Dec. 14 weigh in at the birth centre).  This means I only have 10 "pregnancy" pounds to lose, and I’ll be ready to lost the last 20 pounds to get to my healthy weight. I intend to start meetings again in January, however I will be starting the program again on my own (and with you guys) on Monday. I was wondering if any of you know how many points I must add for breastfeeding?  I figure 2 or 3 top, but I could be wrong… Any idea? Thanks! Isabelle

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Thanks! I will do just that… Although 10 points seem to me to be A LOT… I seem to have lost all apetite since I gave birth…  So far the only thing that has made me eat is the fact that I must feed my daughter! Isabelle

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Congrats on the birth of your baby and welcome back to the group. Good job losing 35 pounds already. Thats a great start. I checked the getting started book concerning breastfeeding mothers. You add 10 points to your normal target. Also you need to adjust the 8 healthy guidelines to increase your milk servings to 3 a day, 8 fruits and veggies, and at least 8 glasses of water to help keep your milk supply flowing. Hi everyone! First, happy holidays to all. Second, I am happy to announce that baby Catherine was born on Nov. 27. She’s a strong baby (was 10 lbs 7 ounces at birth) and tall baby (now 22.5 inches long) and very healthy. For my part I have already lost 35 pounds since birth (as of Dec. 14 weigh in at the birth centre).  This means I only have 10 "pregnancy" pounds to lose, and I’ll be ready to lost the last 20 pounds to get to my healthy weight. I intend to start meetings again in January, however I will be starting the program again on my own (and with you guys) on Monday. I was wondering if any of you know how many points I must add for breastfeeding?  I figure 2 or 3 top, but I could be wrong… Any idea? Thanks! Isabelle

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Congrats on the birth of your baby and welcome back to the group. Good job losing 35 pounds already. Thats a great start. I checked the getting started book concerning breastfeeding mothers. You add 10 points to your normal target. Also you need to adjust the 8 healthy guidelines to increase your milk servings to 3 a day, 8 fruits and veggies, and at least 8 glasses of water to help keep your milk supply flowing.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi everyone! First, happy holidays to all. Second, I am happy to announce that baby Catherine was born on Nov. 27. She’s a strong baby (was 10 lbs 7 ounces at birth) and tall baby (now 22.5 inches long) and very healthy. For my part I have already lost 35 pounds since birth (as of Dec. 14 weigh in at the birth centre).  This means I only have 10 "pregnancy" pounds to lose, and I’ll be ready to lost the last 20 pounds to get to my healthy weight. I intend to start meetings again in January, however I will be starting the program again on my own (and with you guys) on Monday. I was wondering if any of you know how many points I must add for breastfeeding?  I figure 2 or 3 top, but I could be wrong… Any idea? Thanks! Isabelle

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Congratulations on the newcomer! A lovely present for Christmas! Elaine – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi everyone! First, happy holidays to all. Second, I am happy to announce that baby Catherine was born on Nov. 27. She’s a strong baby (was 10 lbs 7 ounces at birth) and tall baby (now 22.5 inches long) and very healthy. For my part I have already lost 35 pounds since birth (as of Dec. 14 weigh in at the birth centre).  This means I only have 10 "pregnancy" pounds to lose, and I’ll be ready to lost the last 20 pounds to get to my healthy weight. I intend to start meetings again in January, however I will be starting the program again on my own (and with you guys) on Monday. I was wondering if any of you know how many points I must add for breastfeeding?  I figure 2 or 3 top, but I could be wrong… Any idea? Thanks! Isabelle

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Hi everyone! First, happy holidays to all. Second, I am happy to announce that baby Catherine was born on Nov. 27. She’s a strong baby (was 10 lbs 7 ounces at birth) and tall baby (now 22.5 inches long) and very healthy. For my part I have already lost 35 pounds since birth (as of Dec. 14 weigh in at the birth centre).  This means I only have 10 "pregnancy" pounds to lose, and I’ll be ready to lost the last 20 pounds to get to my healthy weight. I intend to start meetings again in January, however I will be starting the program again on my own (and with you guys) on Monday. I was wondering if any of you know how many points I must add for breastfeeding?  I figure 2 or 3 top, but I could be wrong… Any idea? Thanks! Isabelle

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More snake oil and quackery?

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Hey Joan, wassup?  Hey, I have an idea.  If Rebecca really wants some info on Mannatech she could ask PamY (ye old bat) what she thinks of it! Hee, hee, hee. Tick <just stirring the pot> Group: alt.support.mult-sclerosis Date: Sun, Dec 19, 2004, 12:59pm (CST+1) From: spamf…@sentex.ca (Joan

Destroying the myth ends 'AIDS'. (Not homophobia)

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THE GREAT HIV / AIDS HOAX The multi-billion dollar AIDS/HIV fraud is based on two fabrications: that AIDS is a single disease

aids is a combination of 25 diseases and that it is caused by the HI virus

HIV attacks the immune system. When the immune system is weak any of 25 other diseases (opportunistic infections) can and do set in. Then you have what is called aids. The S in aids does not stand for virus.

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THE GREAT HIV / AIDS HOAX The multi-billion dollar AIDS/HIV fraud is based on two fabrications: that AIDS is a single disease and that it is caused by the HI virus or the "HIV virus" as some medical/media masterminds call it – perhaps they think the V in HIV stands for volcano. In Japan "AIDS" is virtually unknown : yet, in random tests, 25% of people were found to be "HIV-positive". HIV-positive response means nothing of any relevance to health: it can be triggered by vaccination, malnutrition, M.S., measles, influenza, papilloma virus wart, Epstein Barr virus, leprosy, glandular fever, hepatitis, syphillis … : over sixty different conditions. Dr Robert E. Willner, inoculated himself with the blood of Pedro Tocino, a HIV-positive haemophiliac, on live Spanish television: an event which was not picked up the pharma-beholden British or US media. The great HIV/AIDS lie was created by Robert Gallo who was found guilty of "scientific misconduct". "…instead of trying to prove his insane theories about AIDS to his peers…he went public. Then, with the help of Margaret Heckler, former head of Health and Human Services, who was under great political pressure to come up with an answer to AIDS, the infamous world press announcement of the discovery of the so-called AIDS virus came about. This great fraud is now responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands… It was no accident that Gallo just happened to patent the test for HIV the day after the announcement…Gallo is now a multi-millionaire because of AIDS and his fraudulent AIDS test." Dr. Willner. By grouping together 25-plus different diseases and other allied factors – pneumonia, herpes, candidiasis, salmonella, various cancers, infections, vaccine and antibiotic damage, amyl nitrate damage, malnutrition etc.and, particularly in Africa, TB, malaria, dysentery leprosy and "slim disease" – and calling the whole thing an "AIDS epidemic", a multi-billion dollar/pound "AIDS research and treatment" racket has been created. The mythical "HIV-induced AIDS plague" in the Third World generates huge sums of cash from Western relief organisations whilst smokescreening the vaccine/drug boys, responsible for the carnage. Every death of someone "HIV-positive" is recorded as an "AIDS death". Periodically, the BBC/ITV/Press visit Africa/Yugoslavia/Russia etc to report on the "HIV/AIDS victims" and how they cannot afford the "life-saving AZT." Glaxo Wellcome’s lethal drug, AZT, in combination with the diagnosis of HIV-positive and the prediction, stated or implied, that – "You will die of AIDS" is one of the great pieces of Medical Black Magic – Voodoo Medicine at its most impressive: people have committed suicide on the basis of the ludicrous diagnosis. Pregnant women who are HIV-positive have been told to stop breast-feeding, dosed with AZT, have had abortions or have been sterilised. HIV-positive babies who become ill -from vaccination or whatever – are automatically diagnosed as "suffering from AIDS". "Considering that there is little scientific proof of the exact linkage of HIV and AIDS, is it ethical to prescribe AZT, a toxic chain terminator of DNA…to 150,000 Americans – among them pregnant women and newborn babies..? Rep.G Gutknecht US House of Representatives. New Labour "Health" have now announced that all pregnant women in the UK will be "offered" a HIV test. Those who fall for the scam and who are diagnosed as "HIV positive" will be given the chance to have themselves and their unborn child permanently damaged by AZT etc. Pregnancy, itself, can cause a positive diagnosis. AZT began as a "cancer drug" but was withdrawn for being too toxic: like being thrown out of the Gestapo for cruelty. Its effects include – cancer, hepatitis, dementia, seizures, anxiety, impotence, leukopaenia, , severe nausea, ataxia, etc. and the termination of DNA synthesis. i.e. AIDS/death by prescription. AZT eventually kills all those who continue to take it. "WARNING : Retrovir (AZT)…has been associated with symptomatic myopathy, similar to that produced by Human Immunodeficiency Virus…" Glaxo Wellcome literature! None of which stops the medical trade from pushing it on every trusting sap who is not ill to start with but is labelled with the "HIV-positive" nonsense and then destroyed by AZT; with "AIDS" getting the blame – and more billions pouring in for the drug boys, vivisectors, animal breeders and the rest. The latest stunt is to give a "cocktail" of drugs – including AZT, of course, and at

Lump discovered during pregnancy

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In two weeks if the rare event they found something they could safely deliver the baby. They would wait until the baby is deliver until they started treatment. Pregnancy can do weird things to your body and chances are it is nothing.

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I wouldn’t worry about the two week delay.  If the lump were cancerous, the growth rates mean that isn’t long enough to make any difference (virtually always).

I hope you’re right. I guess I just know that if it were me I’d be the biggest pain in the ass until they sped up a biopsy for me. I want her to be more aggressive now! In the very, very rare case that it was aggressive enough that two weeks might conceivably make a difference, the growth rate would be fast enough that I’d expect she’d be perceiving quite noticeable physical size changes in the lump over fairly short times.  Occasionally, someone on this group reports a very aggressively-growing tumor, and they seem usually to notice changes. I hope everything turns out well.  You’ll let us know, won’t you?  We like hearing good news, and there’s every reason to hope for that in your sister’s case.

Thanks so much for your words, here’s to more good news on this group for everyone, Lhontas

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Benign breast lumps in pregnancy are very common.  Breast cancer in young women is very rare. The pregnancy itself does not affect the risk, when breast cancers are discovered they have usually been growing for about 10 years (this is one reason why it is very rare in young women).

I hope you’re right on this one. Her doctor has told her she’ll have to wait at least two weeks for a biopsy. I don’t understand why there would be any delay on something like this. I wonder if they’re just not taking her seriously because she’s young. Obviously something from the ultrasound has told them the lump is suspect – or they wouldn’t be telling her she needs a biopsy. Why wait? We had a pregnant woman on the group a while ago, who went on to give birth successfully.  I think the approach if cancer -were- diagnosed would be to proceed with surgery as usual, but if chemotherapy were called for, to defer it until after the birth.

She’s worried about breast feeding too. It sounds like her doctor’s just not giving her a lot of answers… Thanks for your feedback Tim, Lhontas – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Tim Jackson

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Benign breast lumps in pregnancy are very common.  Breast cancer in young women is very rare. The pregnancy itself does not affect the risk, when breast cancers are discovered they have usually been growing for about 10 years (this is one reason why it is very rare in young women). I hope you’re right on this one. Her doctor has told her she’ll have to wait at least two weeks for a biopsy. I don’t understand why there would be any delay on something like this.

I wouldn’t worry about the two week delay.  If the lump were cancerous, the growth rates mean that isn’t long enough to make any difference (virtually always). In the very, very rare case that it was aggressive enough that two weeks might conceivably make a difference, the growth rate would be fast enough that I’d expect she’d be perceiving quite noticeable physical size changes in the lump over fairly short times.  Occasionally, someone on this group reports a very aggressively-growing tumor, and they seem usually to notice changes. I hope everything turns out well.  You’ll let us know, won’t you?  We like hearing good news, and there’s every reason to hope for that in your sister’s case. Ann T.

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Hello everyone, My sister has recently discovered a hard lump and is 7 weeks away from her delivery date. Does anyone have any information on breast cancer in young pregnant women? She is 24 years old and this is her second pregnancy. An ultrasound has been done and she has now been referred to the breast clinic for a biopsy. There is no history of breast cancer in our family thus far. Any advice on how to approach treatments or any info at all on breast cancer discovered during pregnancy? Do pregnant women have an increased risk or worse prognosis? Any comments or information would be appreciated, Lhontas

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello everyone, My sister has recently discovered a hard lump and is 7 weeks away from her delivery date. Does anyone have any information on breast cancer in young pregnant women? She is 24 years old and this is her second pregnancy. An ultrasound has been done and she has now been referred to the breast clinic for a biopsy. There is no history of breast cancer in our family thus far. Any advice on how to approach treatments or any info at all on breast cancer discovered during pregnancy? Do pregnant women have an increased risk or worse prognosis? Any comments or information would be appreciated, Lhontas

Benign breast lumps in pregnancy are very common.  Breast cancer in young women is very rare. The pregnancy itself does not affect the risk, when breast cancers are discovered they have usually been growing for about 10 years (this is one reason why it is very rare in young women). We had a pregnant woman on the group a while ago, who went on to give birth successfully.  I think the approach if cancer -were- diagnosed would be to proceed with surgery as usual, but if chemotherapy were called for, to defer it until after the birth. Tim Jackson

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