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I am in my third trimester (30 weeks now) and have had a very good winter with it all.  All my symptoms diminished mostly – except the fatigue.  Oh well. The last couple of days however, things are changing…. I have had full leg tingling, much worse then ever before… not just being a nuisance, but actually hurting!  Also a funny sensation never before felt…. a cold, wet feeling with it.  When I touch the leg, it is very numb…. and when I stand on it, feels as though it will give away.  I’m curious to know if it’s the beginning of an exacerbation, or maybe the baby is just on a nerve?  I can find NO information on the internet about MS and pregnancy.  I’m wondering if this is going to get worse and I’ll be unable to care for the baby when he comes…. kinda anxious here.  Does anyone know where I can get info on pregnancy during MS?  Thanx in advance.. Jordan

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Ask your doctor if it is okay to get into a swimming pool.  When my baby was pressing on a nerve, I got into a swimming pool and the fetus moved.  What a relief that was.  Hope you feel better soon and wishing you a easy labor. Linda P.S.  The National MS Society has info on pregnancy and MS "SirzIMZADI" <sirzimz…@aol.com> wrote in message

news:20010529112847.20485.00001788@ng-fg1.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I am in my third trimester (30 weeks now) and have had a very good winter with > it all.  All my symptoms diminished mostly – except the fatigue.  Oh well. The > last couple of days however, things are changing…. I have had full leg > tingling, ch worse then ever before… not just being a nuisance, but > actually hurting!  Also a funny sensation never before felt…. a cold, wet > feeling with it.  When I touch the leg, it is very numb…. and when I stand on > it, feels as though it will give away.  I’m curious to know if it’s the > beginning of n exacerbation, or maybe the baby is just on a nerve?  I can find > NO information on the internet about MS and pregnancy.  I’m wondering if this > is going to get worse and I’ll be unable to care for the baby when he comes…. > kinda anxious here.  Does anyone know where I can get info on pregnancy during > MS?  Thanx in advance.. > Jordan

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Ther’es also a book out there called Multiple Sclerosis and Having a Baby: Everything You Need To Know about Conception, Pregnancy, and Parenthood that I have heard is fairly good. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0892817887/qid%3D991170445/002… Perhaps this will help? I havne’t been pregnant yet, so I don’t know from personal experience… Good luck! Cyd – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<lm…@dellepro.com> writes: >Ask your doctor if it is okay to get into a swimming pool.  When my baby was >pressing on a nerve, I got into a swimming pool and the fetus moved.  What a >relief that was.  Hope you feel better soon and wishing you a easy labor. >Linda >P.S.  The National MS Society has info on pregnancy and MS "SirzIMZADI" <sirzimz…@aol.com> wrote in message >I am in my third trimester (30 weeks now) and have had a very good winter with >it all.  All my symptoms diminished mostly – except the fatigue.  Oh well. The >last couple of days however, things are changing…. I have had full leg >tingling, ch worse then ever before… not just being a nuisance, but >actually hurting!  Also a funny sensation never before felt…. a cold, wet >feeling with it.  When I touch the leg, it is very numb…. and when I stand on >it, feels as though it will give away.  I’m curious to know if it’s the >beginning of n exacerbation, or maybe the baby is just on a nerve?  I can find >NO information on the internet about MS and pregnancy.  I’m wondering if this >is going to get worse and I’ll be unable to care for the baby when he comes…. >kinda anxious here.  Does anyone know where I can get info on pregnancy during >MS?  Thanx in advance..

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. >> Ther’es also a book out there called Multiple Sclerosis and Having a Baby: >> Everything You Need To Know about Conception, Pregnancy, and Parenthood >that I >> have heard is fairly good.

thank-you for the tips …. have book on order  LOL  pulling out the old walker again, neuro says heat and flux in hormones preparing for labor could be cause of minor increase in symptoms… luv ya Jordan

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"Lady Celena" <c…@REMOVErci.rutgers.edu> wrote in message

news:9f139n$c67$1@niflheim.rutgers.edu… > Ther’es also a book out there called Multiple Sclerosis and Having a Baby: > Everything You Need To Know about Conception, Pregnancy, and Parenthood that I > have heard is fairly good.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0892817887/qid%3D991170445/002… 9-6537653 > Perhaps this will help? I havne’t been pregnant yet, so I don’t know from > personal experience… > Good luck! > Cyd

I did a search on mysimon.com for this title and found it even cheaper than what Amazon.com is asking. http://www.mysimon.com/msrch/index.jhtml?c=bookisbn&pgid=shop&ps=t&_t… ch&v=1&kw=multiple+sclerosis+and+having+a+baby&pid=0892817887&key=UC_200105 3 0_014429_0380723225 I put it on my pre-order list at Half.com for 5 bucks.  I and my husband have been hoping to conceive a child by now; I’m in my very early 40’s and have had MS since (they think) 1986.  Right now my doc has me classified as low-level chronic. Leesa aka The Shadow Dancer Enclave BlackRose Community: http://www.shadowrayven.com/blackrose-studios/enclave/community/ –>new and improved!

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Valentina wrote: > I have to see my neuro soon.

hi valentina, congratulations on your soon-to-be-momhood!  :-> if you’re seeing your neuro soon, maybe he or she would be able to tell you some of the info you’re looking for — i would ask about the M.S. meds before taking them while breastfeeding, for sure. i gave birth before being diagnosed, so none of this was an issue for me during my own pregnancy — mainly wanted to say congrats! in your situation, i think i would ask both the neuro and the OB/GYN the same questions, and discuss the answers given by the one, with the other. all the best to you and your family, rose

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Celeste wrote: > I nursed all three kids for 6 months each.  They were big boys at 8 lbs and > it was hard to keep them satisfied without solid food too.  They all went on > cereal by 2-2.5 months in addition to Mom.  Solid food really helped them > sleep through the night so I could go to my job.

hi celeste, since your boys all turned out fine and healthy, this is moot as applies to your situation, but …i dunno about that! i think it’s the quality/quantity of the milk that keeps them satisfied. i was like a dang COW!! when my daughter was born, all the breastfeeding moms had to make 2-weeks-post-delivery visits, to ensure the babies were gaining weight — many of the other new moms had problems with their milk output. when i showed up for my visit, i’d used  a breast pump and filled a large-sized bottle, in case she needed to be fed while iwas sitting in a public area filled with a zillion people, waiting many hours to be seen. the other new moms had the small-sized baby bottles, and none of them were even completely filled. they kept staring, and finally one woman asked me ‘excuse me, but — is that BREAST MILK in the bottle?" I said it was, and everyone exclaimed and shrieked and ooh’ed and aah’ed. i wore a nursing bra with double pads to bed every night, but when she woke up at night, before i could get her out of her crib and start feeding, the milk would have soaked through both pads, the nursing bra, my nightie, and run down my chest, not in trickles, but in RIVERS! she was 8.5 lbs at birth; two of my sisters had babies who were 10 lbs. at birth, a niece and a nephew, and all of us used breastfeeding exclusively for the first six months, and all our kids grew up to be strong and healthy. at the time, the doctors were ADAMANT about NOT adding cereal till the baby was at least 6 months old, as digestive problems could possibly result from adding semi-solid food too soon. breast-fed babies will just need to be fed more often than formula-fed babies, and i don’t think there’s any way around it — breast milk is processed faster — instead of every 4-6 hours, we were told to expect to feed them every 2-3 hours. LOL, I had NO idea what never getting more than 2-3 hours sleep at a time meant in the real world — sheesh! but in our case, tamara started sleeping through the night when she was 3 months old, and she was exclusively breast-fed up to that time, and for another three months afterward. she’s 22 now!  :-> rose

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> i think it’s the quality/quantity of the milk that keeps them > satisfied. i was like a dang COW!! when my daughter was born, all the

Actually I was a cow too.  oops the right term is probably wet nurse.  My boys were just confused.  They thought colic meant they were hungry.  solid food helped that a lot too. Celeste

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Celeste wrote: > Actually I was a cow too.  oops the right term is probably wet nurse.

LOL — I’ve occasionally thought that if i lived in another era, i’d have been assured steady employment as a wet nurse, till menopause hit, at least! i loved being pregnant, i’ve got wide hips and pelvic bones, and i produced enough milk to feed sextuplets — it really looks like nature designed me for ‘birthin’ babies,’ as my ma might have said.  ;->  that i turned out to have problems, not with fertility, but with carrying a baby to term sometimes seems like ol’ ma nature laughing up her sleeve. i had a miscarriage the month before becoming pregnant with tam, and 2 of them after her birth. well, i just figure that means she was the one who was ‘meant to be,’ which makes her that much more special in my eyes. (if possible!)  :-> rose

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pregnancy from a mans perspective with MS not much info for women,, but as far as a dad with ms goin thru brithing,, for me it caused an attack everytime,, this was due to me frikin excited out of my brains,, the long labour time,, waiting the whole thing ,, i stayed up a long time,, and after we got home,, i went crazy and become the over attentive father,, doin way to much and never resting till i got the attack about 2 weeks after each child was born,, this was my own fault,, as i acted kinda overblown,,, but the excitement and the stress and the whole entire process and the way i handled it gave me an attack,,, i  got way up,, i was buzzin ,, could not sleep,, and then i had the burnout,, the down time,, the realization i was acting like a freakin idiot,, doin way to much and never resting till i was done in by it,,,  for me it was the most exciting time of my life,, goin thru it all,, as a husband,,  i could have avoided any ms attack just by calmin down and not gettin so emotionally overexcited,, but with both my children i worked myself into a tizzy and at 2 weeks after they were born both times i had an ms attack,, from stress and over excitment and not resting one day,,,, i was the very very over attentive new father!!!!!!  then tried to work a job too while this weas goin on,,, rushing home from work goin out shoppin after,, pushed way tooo hard,, and did it to myself,,,,  the only thing child birth will do is cause you over excitement if you let it,, both for the man and the woman,, as long as you rest and stay calm and not run around like a chicken with its head cut off, everyone birthing with ms will be just fine,,,, male or female,, bobbyD "rose" <rosedawn_sc…@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:1113493164.470756.209770@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Valentina wrote: >> I have to see my neuro soon. > hi valentina, > congratulations on your soon-to-be-momhood!  :-> > if you’re seeing your neuro soon, maybe he or she would be able to tell > you some of the info you’re looking for — i would ask about the M.S. > meds before taking them while breastfeeding, for sure. > i gave birth before being diagnosed, so none of this was an issue for > me during my own pregnancy — mainly wanted to say congrats! > in your situation, i think i would ask both the neuro and the OB/GYN > the same questions, and discuss the answers given by the one, with the > other. > all the best to you and your family, > rose

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I had 3 boys. 1st son we had toxemia.  This can happen at any time and is not considered related to MS.  I spent 3 days in ICU.  My son spent 6 days in ICN. 2nd son was just a pop and in and out of the hospital in less than one night. 3rd son was a pretty easy delivery although he kicked me in th middle of the night and broke the water so he was 2 weeks early.  About a week later I had extreme low back pain and my left arm went numb. It was numb for nearly 6 weeks.  The @#$% jerk PA who saw me told me to take advil that it was probably just a pinched nerve.  I never went back to that doctor again.  I was nursing so I ignored his advice. I nursed all three kids for 6 months each.  They were big boys at 8 lbs and it was hard to keep them satisfied without solid food too.  They all went on cereal by 2-2.5 months in addition to Mom.  Solid food really helped them sleep through the night so I could go to my job. Dont worry about pregnancy. Just do it. Celeste

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> Well, according to my neurologist and OB doctor it was OK.

That is very interesting. At least there is something that we can do. > My eye sight got worse with my first preg- > nancy which had nothing to do with my MS.  I didn’t wear glasses > until after that pregnancy.

I already wear glasses, but what I’m experiencing now it’s the classical "scotoma": loss of vision in the center of the eye. I have also some tinnitus (noises in the ears). I have to see my neuro soon. > Best of luck to you.

Thank you very much. > Is this your first?

Yes. And it is a male. > There is nothing in this world > like being a Mom!!!

Yes! I wouldn’t have miss this experience and I’m ready for some consequences (hoping that they are not too many!). Ciao, Valentina

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Delivery was Normal.  Did have complications with toxemia with one child. Not much of a chance of relapse during pregnancy.  It does not act like an immune disease.  Most immune diseases get worse during pregancy.  MS actually gets better.  You will feel better than you can remember and on top of the world.  The problems, if there are any, are after delivery.  This risk is after delivery and for 6 months.  Be sure to let the father know to watch you carefully for depression.  dont let doctors tell you that any parethsesias are due to a pinched ciatic nerve.  They are not. Neuros do not tend to manage pregnancy.  OB-GYN or regular internists do. There is no treatment during pregnancy.  Do not take any MS drugs as they tend to be teratogenic and will cause you to lose the baby. Celeste "Valentina" <valent…@TOGLIQUESTOduestrade.it> wrote in message

news:we76e.1206861$35.44439290@news4.tin.it… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> In your experience, what is the standard way of delivery for a pregnant > MSer? Cesarean, Epidural analgesia, normal labor? > In case of relapse during pregnancy, are intravenous immunoglobulin really > used? > And what about breastfeeding? > I’ve read many studies regardin pregnancy and MS, but I would like to know > what is the effective standard management by neuros in different > countries. > Thank You, > Valentina > (from Florence, Italy)

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Thank you all for the information. I am now 6 month pregnant I would like to deliver with Epidural, but usually, here in Italy, docs prefer caesearan for MSers. Even if in this period (last three months of pregnancy) I am supposed not to have relapses, my right eye vision is getting worse. I don’t understand if it is an old problem (I had an ON some years ago in that eye) or a new relapse. You said that you took prednisone, but during pregnancy or after? And what about breastfeeding and prednisone? Is’nt it dangerous for the baby? Ciao, Valentina

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Well, according to my neurologist and OB doctor it was OK. My daughter turned out great.  I took it during my pregnancy and while I was breastfeeding, it was such a small dose the I don’t believe the baby got much or any for that matter.  It was a hard choice but I wanted her so badly and I didn’t want to get sick during or after my pregnancy, and I didn’t!! Also, about your eyes.  My eye sight got worse with my first preg- nancy which had nothing to do with my MS.  I didn’t wear glasses until after that pregnancy.  Maybe that is what you are going through. Best of luck to you.  Is this your first?  There is nothing in this world like being a Mom!!! Smiles! Kami "Valentina" <valent…@TOGLIQUESTOduestrade.it> wrote in message

news:E_S6e.770389$b5.34426859@news3.tin.it… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Thank you all for the information. > I am now 6 month pregnant > I would like to deliver with Epidural, but usually, here in Italy, docs > prefer caesearan for MSers. > Even if in this period (last three months of pregnancy) I am supposed not > to > have relapses, my right eye vision is getting worse. I don’t understand if > it is an old problem (I had an ON some years ago in that eye) or a new > relapse. > You said that you took prednisone, but during pregnancy or after? And what > about breastfeeding and prednisone? Is’nt it dangerous for the baby? > Ciao, > Valentina

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In your experience, what is the standard way of delivery for a pregnant MSer? Cesarean, Epidural analgesia, normal labor? In case of relapse during pregnancy, are intravenous immunoglobulin really used? And what about breastfeeding? I’ve read many studies regardin pregnancy and MS, but I would like to know what is the effective standard management by neuros in different countries. Thank You, Valentina (from Florence, Italy)

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HI Valentina, I had one baby before and one baby after being diagnosed with MS. I delivered in the standard manner.  Neither one with an Epidural. My labor with both was very smooth but long and requited pitosen(sp?). The only difference with my baby after diagnosis was that my neuro had me stay on prednisone 10mg per day.  I didn’t have any problem with my MS at all.  I breast fed after the birth also.  However, my first baby brought out  my MS, about 6 weeks after birth I started having vertigo and had to go on valium.  had to quit breast feeding because of that and did get better.  About 2 months after that I lost the use of my right hand and started limping.  They did an MRI and determined I had MS.  That began a long string of steroids but I became symptom free for about 2 years and decided to have our second child.  It went great both during and after the pregnancy, no problems at all for years.  I did change my life still, started working at home until my youngest was 2 years old, tried to avoid stress as much as possible and didn’t sweat the small stuff. I wouldn’t change having my children for anything!!  Even now that they are 9 and 12, have constant activities and I an having more problems with my MS.  I take them to school and pick them up everyday, take then piano and practice for the sports they are playing at that time.  It has been very rewarding!  They are understanding of my MS and it isn’t the ruler of the house.  I do have MS days but not so bad that I can’t be their Mom! If you decide to do this, good luck!  It is a wonderful part of life!! Smiles! Kami (from Arizona, USA) "Valentina" <valent…@TOGLIQUESTOduestrade.it> wrote in message

news:we76e.1206861$35.44439290@news4.tin.it… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> In your experience, what is the standard way of delivery for a pregnant > MSer? Cesarean, Epidural analgesia, normal labor? > In case of relapse during pregnancy, are intravenous immunoglobulin really > used? > And what about breastfeeding? > I’ve read many studies regardin pregnancy and MS, but I would like to know > what is the effective standard management by neuros in different > countries. > Thank You, > Valentina > (from Florence, Italy)

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